Election '12

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Re: Election '12

Postby lugnutz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:07 pm

Watching Karl squirm was enjoyable for me to say the least.

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Re: Election '12

Postby mcm » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:28 pm

Pardon my ignorance on the Death With Dignity question, but my understanding is that if passed, someone diagnosed with a terminal (fatal) disease would have been able to get a prescription for a bunch of pills and have a painless death. Why are people against this?
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Re: Election '12

Postby lugnutz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:29 pm

I would guess religion played a huge part
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Re: Election '12

Postby lugnutz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:37 pm

funny or not? I admit I giggled


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Re: Election '12

Postby BS1 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:09 pm

tables games at Twin River Casino!!! wooooooooo
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Re: Election '12

Postby BS1 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:16 pm

here is what I don't get......a shitty economy, a HUGE budget deficit and a weak (at best) incumbent and the Republicans still can't get in the WH.....interesting
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Re: Election '12

Postby Section 40 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:20 pm

In a state that continually embarasses itself politically, last night Massachusetts sunk to a new low.
Scott Brown, who has voted against his party in the past and would have continued to do so with the People of the Commonwealth's best interests at heart is going to be replaced by a condescending, lying, fuck whoever you can to get ahead fraud who will not reach across the aisle, will not vote against her party and will 100%vote for whatever the D says. How the fuck is this possible? How can people look at this douchebag and say "I want her to represent me".
After Barney Frank kept continually getting re-elected I didn't think it was possible to be as disgusted as I am as I type this.
Joe Kennedy? He moved out of his fucking mothers house 2 years ago and has been living off his trust fund for his entire life.
Yeah, he's the one to vote for. Fucking lemmings around here.
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Re: Election '12

Postby Section 40 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:24 pm

BS1 wrote:here is what I don't get......a shitty economy, a HUGE budget deficit and a weak (at best) incumbent and the Republicans still can't get in the WH.....interesting


Shitty Economy = Blame it all on Bush. Obama did, as he reminded everyone on so many occasions, inherit that disasterd dontchaknow.
Huge deficit = Obama was also going to cut the deficit in half, how did that part turn out? Move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: Election '12

Postby B Luc » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:28 pm

Unless the GOP figures out that the same old platform isn't going to work with the changing demographic of the country...they have no chance of winning the next Presidential Seat.

Sidenote: I'd vote for a Christie/Steele ticket
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Re: Election '12

Postby lugnutz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:31 pm

So the two wars weren't a reason for a huge portion of that debt???

So the tax cuts the wealthy took arent a portion of that debt???

Good thing we have all those jobs they were supposed to create with those cuts according to the GOP...godd thing we have those!
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Re: Election '12

Postby Section 40 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:44 pm

Two wars = Blame Bush. Oh, but wait.
Not surprisingly, President Obama is blaming the Bush administration for the debt racked up under his own presidency. Recently, on 60 Minutes, the president was asked to respond to critics who point out that the deficit has gone up $5.2 trillion since he took office. In response, Obama claimed:
“Over the last four years, the deficit has gone up, but 90 percent of that is as a consequence of two wars that weren’t paid for, as a consequence of tax cuts that weren’t paid for, a prescription drug plan that was not paid for, and then the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Now we took some emergency actions, but that accounts for about 10 percent of this increase in the deficit, and we have actually seen the federal government grow at a slower pace than at any time since Dwight Eisenhower, in fact, substantially lower than the federal government grew under either Ronald Reagan or George Bush.”
Obama attributes all of the war spending to Bush. Since taking office, President Obama has actually increased spending on the war in Afghanistan, sending more troops to the country.Spending in Afghanistan went from $38 billion in 2009 to $87 billion in 2010 and $98 billion in 2011. Obama requested $115 billion for both wars in 2012. “The cost from 2010 to 2012 is more than $400 billion, excluding interest.”

The Bush tax cuts? The ones that Obama extended? = Blame Bush, oh wait...
Obama extended the Bush tax cuts for everyone in January of 2011, and cut payroll taxes, reducing projected revenues by nearly $800 billion. He also proposes to continue the Bush/Obama tax cuts for everyone making less than $250,000 in 2013. The Recovery Act cost $800 billion through 2011, and his health care reform actually increased funding for Medicare Part D, closing the “doughnut hole.”

In these measures alone, Obama’s policies account for more than $2 trillion in deficit spending. Meanwhile, the Bush tax cuts reduced expected revenues by an estimated $369 billion from 2009 to 2010. Medicare Part D cost $150 billion from 2009 to 2011. Secondary to the recession, “economic and technical changes” accounted for $1.96 trillion in reduced revenue from 2009 to 2011.

As such, Bush's policies amounted to a total of $519 billion (reduced tax revenue + Medicare Part D) in added deficit spending, together with some portion of the Iraq war spending, which was essentially wound down by the time Obama took office.
In his claim, Obama had the 10% part right. However, that 10% was more properly attributed to his predecessor’s role in creating the deficits from 2009-2012. The remainder is attributable to Obama’s policies (~40%), the recession (~40%), and other (~10%).

Similarly, the president’s claim that federal government grew at a slower pace than at any time since the Eisenhower administration has been widely debunked. The Washington Post, Associated Press, and Factcheck.org all agreed the statement is patently false.

The jobs in question that weren't produced were promised by Obama but I think we should blame Bush anyway.
What is the deficit? It doubled under Obama

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http://www.policymic.com/articles/15723 ... ional-debt
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Re: Election '12

Postby lugnutz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:58 pm

Ok he increased spending to END the war and bring them home....its an end to the spending. Same thing if you pay off my credit card and cut it up...I cant spend on what I dont have anymore, but you increased your debt. Saved me but you can blame me over all.

Every time the country has entered a depression or recession the President increased Government spending to stimulate the economy. The only difference is the wealthy were paying in at a fair clip to compensate for the increase. You cant cut tax and increase spending on the wars and the programs you have to have to get out of the hole.
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Re: Election '12

Postby vtexposfan » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:03 pm

mcm wrote:Pardon my ignorance on the Death With Dignity question, but my understanding is that if passed, someone diagnosed with a terminal (fatal) disease would have been able to get a prescription for a bunch of pills and have a painless death. Why are people against this?


Because this state is full of dumb fuck Catholics.
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Re: Election '12

Postby mcm » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:06 pm

disgruntled Republicans saying Massachusetts/USA should be ashamed of itself is the best. You really get to see who the crazies are on FB today. There's one guy I'm friends with who posts non-stop negative stuff about Obama and it looks as though a 3rd grader wrote it. If you're going to make an ass out of yourself, atleast use correct grammar/punctuation.

I voted Obama-Brown and YES on all the questions. I don't have strong feelings either way. Would have laughed equally as hard at the Obama wackos posting on FB today if Romney had won. I have a feeling whoever ended up winning will have very little affect on my life.
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Re: Election '12

Postby mcm » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:07 pm

vtexposfan wrote:
mcm wrote:Pardon my ignorance on the Death With Dignity question, but my understanding is that if passed, someone diagnosed with a terminal (fatal) disease would have been able to get a prescription for a bunch of pills and have a painless death. Why are people against this?


Because this state is full of dumb fuck Catholics.


I thought Catholicism went out of style in the 90's
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