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2012 NFL Draft

Postby Mr. X » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:44 pm

Kiper Mock 1.0 (Fuck you RI slut)

1. Indianapolis - Andrew Luck QB Stanford
2. St. Louis - Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma St.
3. Minnesota - Matt Kalil OT USC
4. Cleveland - Robert Griffin III QB Baylor
5. Tampa Bay - Trent Richardson RB Alabama
6. Washington - Morris Claiborne CB LSU
7. Jacksonville - Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
8. Carolina - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
9. Miami - Riley Reiff OT Iowa
10. Buffalo - Courtney Upshaw LB Alabama
11. Kansas City - Devon Still DT Penn St.
12. Seattle - Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
13. Arizona - Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
14. Dallas - David DeCastro OG Stanford
15. Philadelphia - Luke Kuechly LB Boston College
16. New York Jets - Mark Barron S Alabama
17. Cincinnati (from Oakland) - Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
18. San Diego - Cordy Glenn OG Georgia
19. Chicago - Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
20. Tennessee - Nick Perry DE USC
21. Cincinnati - Lamar Miller RB Miami, FL
22. Cleveland (from Atlanta) - Kendall Wright WR Baylor
23. Detroit - Zach Brown LB North Carolina
24. Pittsburgh - Dontari Poe DT Memphis
25. Denver - Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi St.
26. Houston - Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers
27. New England (from New Orleans) - Michael Brockers DL LSU
28. Green Bay - Whitney Mercilus LB Illinois
29. New York Giants - Zebrie Sanders OT Florida St.
30. Baltimore - Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona St.
31. San Francisco - Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
32. New England - Andre Branch LB Clemson
The Orangemen are just a rock-solid, consistent winner that hasn't suffered a losing season since 1968-69.
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:50 pm

I like NE in that 32nd spot! haha

Probably too much to ask that the Pats draft a speedster in the first round to "take the top of the defense" next year
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby mcm » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:39 pm

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Kiper 2006 Re-draft (No Maroney or Chad Jackson??? :roll: :roll: )

The 2006 NFL draft narrative quickly became centered around the debate of whether Mario Williams or Reggie Bush would become the better player. Had Houston made a big mistake at No. 1? Obviously, you'd probably give the edge at this point to Williams, but it's not by much. But what if we re-drafted the entire first round based on what we know now, after six full years of NFL play? Well, I did. But consider the parameters:

1. This order doesn't just reflect what players have done, but what they still have left.
2. I'm not as concerned with need, or an attempt to re-write history. This is about performance.

Why six? Well, we did 2005 last year, in looking at Aaron Rodgers' rise. So why break the pattern -- it's a good length to give a sense of a class while still allowing at least some projection. Remember, this follows the actual order.


Houston Texans

Record: 2-14
Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon

He's played in 94 of 96 possible regular season games, plays a premium position, is a Pro Bowl shoo-in and would dominate in any system. Safe to say the guy Ray Lewis pushed for to free up the Baltimore linebackers has worked out just fine, and the future holds plenty more. Previous draft spot: No. 12

New Orleans Saints

Record: 3-13
Nick Mangold, C, Ohio St.

A center at No. 2 is preposterous in a real draft because it's not considered a premium position. But Mangold transcends that because he's the best in the NFL, and would make any offense better. No member of this class has more Pro Bowl appearances, or is as universally regarded as the best at what he does. Previous draft spot: No. 29

Tennessee Titans

Record: 4-12
Maurice Jones-Drew, RB, UCLA

Coming off a year in which he was close to unstoppable even within an offense that was far too easy to stop, Jones Drew has over 1,700 yards more than any other running back in this draft class after six years. Given his body type, he could be good for another five years, which puts him in elite territory historically. Previous draft spot: No. 60

New York Jets

Record: 4-12
Tamba Hali, DE, Penn St.

Who has the most sacks from this class? It's not Williams, the former No. 1 pick. No, it's Hali, who has been brilliant since converting to the 3-4 as an OLB. With 53.5 sacks in five seasons -- and only getting better -- he's quietly been very, very good, and quite durable, playing in 95 of 96 games. Imagine him in Rex Ryan's system. Previous draft spot: No. 20

Green Bay Packers

Record: 4-12
Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina St.

Just behind Hali in sack production, but you have to factor in the injury he suffered this year. Minus that, he'd be the draft class leader in the category. Now converted in from DE in the 4-3 to upright in the 3-4, is the upside the same? Regardless, Williams has put most all questions about his selection to rest. Too bad he didn't get to experience the Houston playoff run this year. Previous draft spot: No. 1

San Francisco 49ers

Record: 4-12
Jahri Evans, OT, Bloomsburg

One of the steals of the draft, Evans went No. 108 overall from Bloomsburg. Now a Pro Bowl tackle in New Orleans, it's safe to say he'd be a top-10 lock if we knew then what we know now. Previous draft spot: No. 108
Oakland Raiders

Record: 4-12
Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt

Based on positional scarcity, Cutler could almost be higher. The next highest passing yardage total in this class is Vince Young with just 8,964 yards. Cutler will reach 20,000 around the midway point of 2012 if healthy. Enigmatic, but still with an element of promise, San Fran would certainly take him over Alex Smith for the past five seasons.
Previous draft spot: No. 11
Buffalo Bills

Record: 5-11
Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland

He has just five more catches (304) than the next closest tight end in the class, but consider what he's done with a mostly bad QB situatiion in San Fran over the last six years, and he might just be hitting his stride. Davis still has a lot of good football left, and it's clear the speed is still there. Previous draft spot: No. 6
Detroit Lions

Record: 5-11
Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan

He fell to No. 52 overall based somewhat on competition level after dominating at Western Michigan, but Jennings was ready to help Green Bay early. Leads the draft class in TD receptions with 49, and solid clutch credentials. Jennings has plenty left.
Previous draft spot: No. 52
Arizona Cardinals

Record: 5-11
D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia

Drafted at No. 4 overall, Ferguson was expected to be very good, and he has been. A Pro Bowl regular, he may be overshadowed by the excellence of Mangold, but plenty of teams would love to get what he provides the Jets. Previous draft spot: No. 4
Denver Broncos

Record: 13-3
Brandon Marshall, WR, Central Florida

He may not be considered a game-breaker, but Marshall leads the draft class in both receiving yards and catches. In fact, Marshall has 45 more catches than anyone else in the class. This for a guy that went No. 119 overall. Back in Denver!
Previous draft spot: No. 119
Baltimore Ravens

Record: 6-10
Reggie Bush, RB, USC

People who want to call Bush a bust simply aren't watching the tape. He's only a disappointment if you had Hall of Fame projections because of where he was taken. But Bush has done plenty. Not only is he fourth in this draft class in rushing yards (and he'll be higher when he's finished), Bush has 337 catches. For context, consider that Santonio Holmes, a Round 1 pick who's had a pretty good career thus far, has 338. Bush was a key part of a Saints renaissance and Super Bowl team, and he clearly has a lot left after a great year running the ball. Previous draft spot: No. 2
Cleveland Browns

Record: 6-10
Devin Hester, CB, Miami (Fla.)

It's hard to say where Hester will be viewed as a wideout, but he may be the greatest returner we've ever seen, played a huge role in a Super Bowl run and did all this after being drafted as a corner. He's made himself valuable, a great credit to him.
Previous draft spot: No. 57
Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 6-10
Elvis Dumervil, DE, Louisville

He's faced a major injury, and even then Dumervil is exactly a half-sack behind Mario Williams one behind Tamba Hali, and this after being taken No. 126 overall. Sure, he faced height questions, but Dumervil simply gets to quarterbacks. Previous draft spot: No. 126
St. Louis Rams

Record: 6-10
Marques Colston, WR, Hofstra

What's the most impressive number -- the 449 catches, 48 TD catches, or 6,240 receiving yards? Actually, it's none of those. It's No. 252, where Colston was drafted just moments before Mr. Irrelevant. (Hofstra doesn't even field a football team anymore.) The one Super Bowl ring isn't shabby, either. Previous draft spot: No. 252
Miami Dolphins

Record: 9-7
DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama

The Houston defense hasn't always been this good while he's been around, but Ryan has 482 tackles, easily the best in his class, and some frequent flyer miles to Hawaii.
Previous draft spot: No. 33
Minnesota Vikings

Record: 9-7
Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU

He may never get the credit he deserves, but Whitworth is a really good left tackle and was a huge part of the success in Cincinnati this year. How he hasn't been to a Pro Bowl is beyond me. Maybe one of the more underrated players in the league.
Previous draft spot: No. 55
Dallas Cowboys

Record: 9-7
Johnathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina

Not much of a surprise for me that Joseph has been this good; the No. 24 overall pick is the kind of player you want locked up with a No. 1 receiver. Certainly in the upper echelon of NFL corners. Previous draft spot: No. 24
San Diego Chargers

Record: 9-7
DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis

He has nearly 500 fewer carries than Jones-Drew, but also a real shot at 10,000 rushing yards if he stays healhy enough to go perhaps another five seasons.
Previous draft spot: No. 27
Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 10-6
Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma

Not a household name, but the people who fill out Pro Bowl rosters know Joseph as one of the better guards in the league over the last handful of seasons.
Previous draft spot: No. 23
New England Patriots

Record: 10-6
Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida St.

Now the lesser of the Jets' top two corners, Cromartie has still carved out a very good career. He leads this draft class in INTs by four, and has been a Pro Bowl player. Probably doesn't have the same promise we saw from him early, but still a solid corner.
Previous draft spot: No. 19
San Francisco 49ers

Record: 4-12
Roman Harper, CB, Alabama

The second of five total players taken out of Alabama in this draft, Harper has been a Pro Bowl corner and a steady force in the New Orleans secondary. Not always consistent, but he'd be a solid addition to any team. Previous draft spot: No. 43
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 11-5
Kamerion Wimbley, DE, Florida St.

The Raiders may have shelled out a little too much to get Wimbley last offseason in the eyes of some, but he's behind only Williams, Hali and Dumervil in sacks for this class, so he's carved out a pretty decent career as a guy that specializes in rushing the QB. Not a major surprise for a No. 13 overall pick. Previous draft spot: No. 13
Cincinnati Bengals

Record: 11-5
Eric Winston, OT, Miami (Fla.)

In the last five seasons, Winston has started 80 out of a possible 80 games. He plays a big part of what makes Houston's run and play-action game perhaps the best in the NFL. Previous draft spot: No. 66
Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 11-5
Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA

It's criminal that Lewis had just 39 receptions this season, but such is life in the Jacksonville offense. Could be far more productive had he been in a better setting, but hasn't been bad where he is with 220 catches in six seasons. Previous draft spot: No. 28
Buffalo Bills

Record: 5-11
Owen Daniels, TE, Wisconsin

Has carved out a very productive career in Houston, with 299 catches. Not bad at all for a No. 98 overall pick. Wisconsin is a program scouts keep an eye on looking for tight end talent, and Daniels is a part of the reason why. Previous draft spot: No. 98
Carolina Panthers

Record: 11-5
Antoine Bethea, CB, Howard

The No. 207 overall pick has proven to be a Pro Bowl player. No other safety or corner from the draft class can top his 414 career tackles. Previous draft spot: No. 207
Jacksonville Jaguars

Record: 12-4
Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn

Really hope that McNeill can come back in 2012 fully healthy. At his best, he's a big-time talent at left tackle, and his play early in his career made that clear. He drops some here because it's hard to project if he'll be at that level again. Previous draft spot: No. 50
New York Jets

Record: 4-12
Richard Marshall, CB, Fresno St.

By no means a star, Marshall has carved out a solid career. He's third in this class in INTs with 17, and also has over 400 tackles in his career. Previous draft spot: No. 58
Indianapolis Colts

Record: 14-2
Danieal Manning, S, Abilene Christian

This is a player who cracks the first round because I still think his best is yet to come. Manning has been a solid return man, but his play in the secondary has been underrated, and he had a solid year for the Texans. Previous draft spot: No. 42
Seattle Seahawks

Record: 13-3
Kyle Williams, DT, LSU

Another guy who hasn't gotten much attention while playing for some bad defenses, Williams has become a Pro Bowl player, and certainly was a good value as the No. 134 overall selection out of LSU. Previous draft spot: No. 134
New York Giants

Record: 11-5
Cortland Finnegan, CB, Samford

His play isn't quite where it was -- he does have a Pro Bowl to his name -- but Finnegan has carved out a pretty solid career as a good corner and a very good agitator. Not bad for a guy who emerged from way down the draft board. Previous draft spot: No. 215



Close calls: Mathias Kiwanuka, Donte Whitner, Ray Edwards, Barry Cofield, Chad Greenway, A.J. Hawk, Jeremy Mincey

Special teams picks: Sam Koch (P), Stephen Gostkowski (K)

Notable undrafted players: Miles Austin, Brent Grimes, Donald Penn, Tramon Williams
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:35 am

I wish there was a place to bet that RGIII is a better all around pro then Luck by the end of their careers.
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby vtexposfan » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:14 pm

I love the Jay Cutler comment. Reminds me of Stan from South Park: "My dad says that you suck now, but that you could be kind of good someday."
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby AY » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:00 pm

less than 48 hours out and this thread is tumbleweeds. Just more proof this place is dead.

I can't wait. I will be camped out in front of the TV Thursday night. Bama could send as many as 5 across the stage Thursday night.

Last year, the draft was the day after the tornadoes and I didn't even have power until Sunday. I had no idea that the Falcons traded their franchise for Julio Jones or any of the other stuff that went on that night.

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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:48 am

Half can't access the board the other half only came here to argue with them.......and I can't approve new posters when they ask me to let them in........."waiting for his turn to die" comes to mind.
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby AY » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:55 am

lugnutz wrote:Half can't access the board the other half only came here to argue with them.......and I can't approve new posters when they ask me to let them in........."waiting for his turn to die" comes to mind.


Why can't you approve new posters?
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby AY » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:55 am

Also and plus, Facebook, Twitter and Google Plus(not really) have greatly impacted forums.
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby AY » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:18 am

Okay, forget anything negative I ever said about the Dolphins picking Tannehill. I can see why they'd want her, errrr, him around.

Meet Mrs. Tannehill

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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:58 am

Jamie Foxx ringing in my ears as I view that......
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby DC » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:38 pm

washington drafting Cousins qb from Sparty ... same ole skins lol ... so few picks after trade so lets draft another QB to go with RG3
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Thu May 03, 2012 10:12 am

Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles tendon playing basketball.
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby BS1 » Thu May 03, 2012 10:57 am

was he a high draft pick? who did he go to?
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Re: 2012 NFL Draft

Postby lugnutz » Thu May 03, 2012 11:00 am

Save it ass hat........there isnt a 2012 season thread yet and I dont feel like starting one.
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