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Postby GodofThunder » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:42 pm

KW wrote:I love how people still think the Padres are going to trade their franchise player (and hometown guy)for prospects after being in the playoff hunt all year.

If the Sox want Gonzalez they need to be prepared to trade Clay plus prospects.

Please tell me how the Rays will suck next year.


Pads won't be able to resign him after 2011, the last year of his deal. And they don't really expect to be in the hunt every year.

Rays will be losing lots of guys and not replacing them. They will not be bidding for Crawford, and will be trading at least one starter, likely Garza, I'd guess. And their pen CAN'T be as good next year.

They won't "suck", but they'll be a clear 3rd best if the Sox address their issues.
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Postby mcm » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:43 pm

why would they trade Garza?

Davis and Hellickson will both be good.
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Postby Mk » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:48 pm

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Mk wrote:Injured or not, was there a worse signing than Mike Cameron?


John Lackey?


LOL maybe it would have been best if he was the one who was hurt.

I have no idea what the Padres roster looks like but they also get Chris Young back for a full year and they play in a shitty division.

They're not trading Gonzalez in the off season unless they hit the motherload. Something like Salty and Mike Lawrie.
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Postby mcm » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:50 pm

or just trade Cameron back to SD
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Postby GodofThunder » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:52 pm

mcm wrote:why would they trade Garza?

Davis and Hellickson will both be good.


$$$$ They are going to cut payroll, likely substantially.
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Postby Ronnie B » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:57 pm

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mcm wrote:why would they trade Garza?

Davis and Hellickson will both be good.


$$$$ They are going to cut payroll, likely substantially.


Garza ain't going anywhere. He's got 3 more years of arbitration . Soriano, Crawford, and Hawpe will all be free agents.
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Postby Ronnie B » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:00 pm

P - Lester
C - Martinez?
1b - Dunn
2d - Pedroia
SS - Scutaro
3b- Youk
LF - Crawford
CF - Hawpe?
RF - Drew
DH - Pena
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Postby mcm » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:01 pm

^^ and Pena.

Jennings fills in for Crawford in the OF.

Their young starting pitching = filthy
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Postby GodofThunder » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:05 pm

I'd rather pick up Papi's option than get Pena. Pena hits .230 and will get at least a 2 year deal. Sign Papi and get a bat at the deadline if he is cooked.
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Postby GodofThunder » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:06 pm

Garza could go BECAUSE he is arb. eligible. They aren't going to pay him an arbitration # if they truly are looking to get into the payroll neighborhood they are talking about.

Longoria should be highest pd Ray until Price gets paid.
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Postby Ronnie B » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:15 pm

GodofThunder wrote:I'd rather pick up Papi's option than get Pena. Pena hits .230 and will get at least a 2 year deal. Sign Papi and get a bat at the deadline if he is cooked.


Ortiz is gonna get a two yr deal too. This offseason will get ugly between Ortiz and the Sox
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Postby Ronnie B » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:28 pm

Clay, Bowden, Anderson for Gonzalez and they sign Cliff Lee

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Postby UconnBuckeye » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:29 pm

why are you so down on Clay?
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Postby Ronnie B » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:33 pm

UconnBuckeye wrote:why are you so down on Clay?


I'm not. He'll bring the most back in return. Throwing Lester and Lee twice out there in a 7 game series against the Yankees would be off the charts
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Postby GodofThunder » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:38 pm

Lee is going to want 6 years and 20mm per.....they won't do that, especially with SuperStuds Lackey and Beckett signed long term.

They won't do anything big rotation wise.....there is no room. They should throw their money at bullpen and Crawford, and figure out what to do with Ortiz. If Ortiz wants to be in Boston, it's the option or 2 yrs. for 18mm total. He's not getting anything more from Boston.

And Clay isn't going anywhere. If they trade a starter, it's Dice-K and the Sox pay the freight. Kelly, Dice-K for free, Lars, and Reddick for Gonzo. If they can't get Gonzo, sign Dunn. But he's going to ask for way more than he's worth, too.

Best thing they have going for them is Youk....he gives them the flexibility go after different guys.....
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